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Mario Leo: Sportsbiz, digital, the need of New Year resolution

Sports digital media is full of loud voices with little to say. Mario Leo is the opposite. The founder and CEO of Result Sports is one of Europe's leading experts on social media strategy and metrics. He also has firm views on ways the sports industry should try to monetise existing audiences and look to engage new ones. Mario and I have shared an hour on this podcast for the last four New Years. But the effect of the pandemic makes this conversation very different - some things will be changed forever, some will never come back and some will be accelerated. We discuss why 2021 is a crucial year for the future of sports business.

Rich Luker: How to foresee the future of sports fans

Rich Luker is a pioneer in the research of sports fans. For a quarter of a century, he has been asking them questions and analysing their answers, first as ESPN Sports Poll now as Luker on Trends.

His views on the future of the industry may be strong but they are based on a vast amount of rich, longitudinal data.

Even before the pandemic, Luker was hammering US sports owners to concentrate on creating meaningful relationships rather than merely transactional ones.

In its wake, he will be beating that drum even louder.

Barrie Tomlinson: The Content Strategy of Roy of the Rovers

Barrie Tomlinson played a major part in my childhood. As editor of Tiger & Scorcher and Roy of the Rovers, he was in charge of the two comics that dominated my reading before I went to secondary school.

At their height, these publications sold 300,000 copies per week in the UK and enjoyed guest writers including the England manager and Duke of Edinburgh. Of course, this was decades before digital media but, in this podcast, Tomlinson provides useful lessons in content strategy, character development, the importance of feedback, editorial control versus commercialisation, being prepared to 'kill your darlings' and much, much more

Chris Millard: The Barmy Army Story

The Barmy Army started 2020 by celebrating their 25th birthday, ended the summer with official recognition from the England captain but will see out the year, like so many of us, ‘battening down the hatches’ for a difficult 2021.

Managing director Chris Millard told the Barmy Army story to Sports Content Strategy - its past, its Covid-hit present and how it is the trying to shape the future of international cricket supporting.

The story of this supporters’ group is well-known. Paul Burnham, Gareth Evans and David Peacock were part of a cluster of doughty fans watching Mike Atherton’s men slide to another inglorious Ashes defeat in Adelaide in the winter of 1994/95. They sang and drank with gusto, seemingly oblivious to the score, the opposition or the need for sun-block. The Australian press branded them “the Barmy Army”, a name that the trio were shrewd enough to copyright in the UK and Australia. They printed and sold 100 T-shirts with their new name. By the next Test, they would need 3,000. Since then, the Barmy Army have followed England though thin, thinner and occasionally ‘thick’, providing loud, passionate support from the stands. Outwardly they conform to the stereotype of the travelling English sports fan, however, their ethos has always been different. Aware of their behaviour and self-policing, they have raised £500,000 for charities in the countries they visit. Their funds helped to rebuild a Sri Lankan village destroyed by a tsunami. It was renamed in the group’s honour.

Managing director Chris Millard told the Barmy Army story to Sports Content Strategy - its past, its Covid-hit present and how it is trying to shape the future of international cricket supporting.

Chester King: The role of the British Esports Association

One of the issues that has dogged the emergence of esports is the very word sports in its name. The uninitiated want to bracket this new phenomenon as a virtual version of more traditional competition when entertainment is a better bracket. However, for now, it still tends to be shown on sports channels and reported in sports sections.

Then there is the question of best practice, development and governance. Although game publishers hold the power, there is a crucial role for national bodies. That is why Chester King set-up the British Esports Association in 2016.

In this podcast, we look at the myths surrounding the industry, the important social and psychological benefits of esports, why key institutions have recognised its usefulness and how UK business has not.

Achint Gupta: Kolkata Knight Riders, IPL and content strategy

In 2019, the Indian Premier League averaged 25,700 spectators per game, a figure that left the cricket tournament nestled neatly between La Liga and Serie A as the eighth most popular annual sports event in the world.

The content created by IPL franchises is generally excellent and the crowds are as passionate as you will find for a relatively new event. However, it rarely gets the credit it deserves.

Achint Gupta is Head of Media and Content at Kolkata Knight Riders, a major IPL franchise with a social media reach akin to that of a major Champions League football club. They were producing their only documentaries long before other sports teams started to eye a spot on Netflix.

They are also internationalising their brand and developing unique content strands that combine Bollywood glamour, Indian music and a different attitude to storytelling.

Thomas Lintz: The story of Transfermarkt

Transfermarkt is a phenomenon. Like IMDB in film and Boxrec in boxing, it is a community-sourced facts-and-stats site that has become the authority it is area.

It has 1.5 million football matches and 760,000 player profiles in its database. But the difference is the 80,000 coaches, 41,000 referees, 75,000 clubs and 12,000 agents.

Its valuations of players dominate the industry. Just visit LinkedIN and you’ll find representatives pitching their players based on their “TM price”.

In this podcast, managing director Thomas Lintz reveals the origin story of Transfermarkt. How it went from a passion project for self-confessed data nerds, through community growth and mainstream investment to become the data geek’s football site.

Tom Middleditch: Eleven Sports, OTT, Watch Together, Piracy, New Territories

Since they launched in 2015, Eleven Sports have been at the vanguard of sports broadcasting via an over-the-top platform.

They led the way in the development of Watch Together technology and recently announced perhaps their most significant deal as the domestic broadcaster for the Belgian League.

Their business is not restricted to OTT but my conversation with Tom Middleditch, Global Head of Digital, centred on this relatively new technology.

For the last few years, talk has grown about OTT’s ability to redefine the sports rights landscape. It is likely that Covid-19 will only accelerate this process.

This is an area with huge potential given the ability of rights-holders to go direct to consumer via OTT and the deep-dive data it can provide. However, there are major technological hurdles such as piracy and latency.

Kieran Maguire: How to buy a football club

Soon or later every industry will be hit by the recession that is already starting to impact the world in the wake of Covid-19. But, of course, football is not every industry, it has always been entirely unique. The beautiful game attracts a constant stream of good, bad and ugly owners, who often exit broke and dejected a few years later.

The potential collapse of various industries that underpin football and the demise of current owners’ personal wealth may mean many clubs change hands in the next couple of years.

But how do you buy a club, what should you look for and who would take on this traditionally tough job?

Kieran Maguire is a lecturer in football finance at the University of Liverpool. He also co-hosts a podcast called The Price of Football, and has written a book of the same name.

He is perfectly-positioned to sort the tyre-kickers and crooks from altruists and fans-made-good who will look to leap into club ownership in the next few years.

Simon McMenemy: How to manage 'the biggest football country in the world'

Simon McMenemy has managed two national football teams and won a league title but you have probably never heard of him. When he moved from his role as assistant manager at Worthing FC to take over in the Philippines (no you did not read that incorrectly) he was the youngest national head coach in the world. Then when Simon was handed the reigns at the Indonesian side, he had the second most important job in a country of 270m people. Only the president has a higher status in the most populous nation where football in the No1 sport.

Andrew McNeill: How to run an esports franchise

The NBA 2K League may be the best example of the way traditional sports is trying to enter the esports market.

Andrew McNeill has been at the forefront of this sector for years. After running the esports track at the SXSW conference, he moved to Monumental Sports to take charge of the 2K franchise for the Washington Wizards NBA team and the Capital’s nascent virtual hockey offering.

This podcast explores the growth of the 2K league, how real and virtual sports can complement one another, sponsorship, building a roster, the new franchise in Shanghai and much much more

Jesse Cole: How to REALLY put your fans first

Many sports organisations say they put the fans first, however no one is doing it quite like the Savannah Bananas.

Since Jesse Cole took over this 'very minor' minor league baseball outfit, crowds at their 'shows' have gone from a few hundred to 4,000 sell-outs for season upon season.

The formula is simple - taking out all of the friction fans face in attending an event and replacing it with pure, unadulterated fun.

Every ticket is all-you-can-eat, there is no advertising in the stadium and they have no corporate sponsorship. Almost nothing is spent on marketing, instead, a host of fan-friendly antics and activations garner them attention.

David Fowler: New sports business models for the 'other 90%'

How does sport rebuild itself in the wake of Covid-19? Much of the focus has been on the top 10 per cent, the big teams and leagues that dominate the agenda. However, surely it is those in the lower reaches who should have the most concern. David Fowler is the Director of Marketing at MyCujoo, a live football streaming platform focussing primarily on small and middle-tier federations, leagues and clubs all over the world to produce and distribute live and on-demand content.

As a former Head of Strategy and Intelligence at FIFA, David has strong views on the way those outside football's upper echelons might realign their operations and business models. This wide-ranging discussion is not about the big teams, they can look after themselves. It is about how smaller organisations might face up to the greatest ever threat to their existence.

Adrian Warner: Redundancy and re-evaluation in sports media after COVID-19

Like everything else, the sports media industry may be irrevocably changed in the wake of the Coronavirus crisis. The loss of matches, Tests and races has not only effected players, clubs and leagues but made an immediate impact in related industries such as media, broadcasting, hospitality and gambling. Adrian Warner went through a significant change in his career a few years ago when he was made redundant from his role as a sports reporter for the BBC. He wrote a book about how to handle the emotional and practical side of having to change when your job ends. From coping with anger, dealing with former colleagues to getting your CV ready to re-enter the job market and understanding what really makes you happy, Adrian has many lessons for those who may be affected by the economic issues that follow COVID-19

Adrian Bevington: Crisis communications, football and the coronavirus

Like every industry, sport is trying to cope with the impact of the coronavirus and understand how it will reemerge once the current crisis has passed. In uncertain times, clear and effective communication is always crucial.

Adrian Bevington has managed this function at a number of high-profile football organisations, most notably the English FA. He has also held key strategic roles.  

Bevington is well-placed to articulate the core tenets of effective communications at this time but also articulate the opportunity to reframe a better, more socially-responsible football industry once society returns to some semblance of normality.

Michael Calvin: How to write a sports book

Journalist Michael Calvin has written some of the most important and influential British sports books of the last decade.

He has taken a deep-dive into areas such as scouting, leadership, youth development, and the business of football, winning a host of awards along the way. Michael has also co-written deeply personal biographies with the likes of Gareth Thomas, Sir Alastair Cook and Joey Barton.

In this podcast, Michael takes us through his process, from choosing the topics and forming the questions to self-publishing and marketing the book. We also talk about the modern media landscape, the gravitas that books still retain and the many important issues his work has highlighted.

Panagiotis Aroniadis: How to start the first club OTT channel in Europe

PAOK may be the first European football club to launch an OTT channel showing exclusive, live coverage of their home games.

This is the latest move for a historic club that has been trying to changes its story over recent years. Last season, they won their first Greek title for a generation, staying unbeaten throughout and later adding a victory in the cup final. This success came just a few years after new ownership had brought in a fresh approach to content strategy. The mood had clearly changed. So, when the conditions were conducive to launch an OTT channel, according to Panagiotis Aroniadis, they had the 'power and the madness' to take the plunge.

Luke Sutton: Mental health, elite athletes and finding a 'new balance'

Luke Sutton is trying to change the narrative around mental health and elite athletes, using lessons from his own story.

At the end of a long career in county cricket, team-mates staged an intervention over his alcohol-consumption and self-destructive behaviour.

On retirement, Sutton became an agent for one of those concerned friends, record-breaking England Test bowler Jimmy Anderson. Since then the agency has expanded, taking on footballers, boxers and Olympians.

At the end of 2019, Sutton released a book called Back from the Edge, which recounts the mental descent during his time as a wicketkeeper-batsman and how he turned his life around.

Sutton has vowed to run his agency with his clients' long-term well-being in mind, even if that leaves 'money on the table'. He also has strong views on the way elite athletes are perceived and how they are handled by the press, public and the sporting authorities.

Nicola Palios: How to create a community football club

Tranmere Rovers have been a true footballing success story in the last five years. The other team from Liverpool had just slipped out of the Football League when Mark and Nicola Palios bought the club. There was even a danger they might case to exist.

Since then they have had trips to Wembley, a couple of promotion but, just as importantly, built a solid football business with a positive impact on its local community.

The Palios’ have just finished their first five-year plan. It concluded with this husband and wife team taking on investment from Indonesia, a place close to my heart.

Vice-chair Nicola talked to me about Tranmere’s turnaround, the crucial revenue-raising community schemes, the importance of pro-active communication and what their next five-year plan may bring

Steve Bunce: The 'sweet science' of storytelling

Steve Bunce is the most influential journalist in British boxing today.

He is also a collector of sporting tales, master storyteller and someone who revers the fight writers of yesteryear. I firmly believe that boxing has a special narrative. It creates stories like no other sport, therefore 'Buncey' was the perfect guest to discuss the topic.

Expect tall-tales and tangents